Pondering this matter can be misleading and confusing. If an image attempts to represent a fourth-dimensional object projected onto a two-dimensional interface, such speculation is inherently limited. A true perception of a fourth-dimensional object requires a fourth-dimensional perspective, and any dynamic changes in the object would necessitate at least a fifth-dimensional abstraction. However, as three-dimensional beings, we can only perceive three-dimensional objects with a fourth-dimensional abstraction. Therefore, a genuine fourth-dimensional perception with fifth-dimensional abstraction is beyond our reach. What is possible is mathematical abstraction, not visual interpretation.
11 August 2024
Conceptualizing Higher Dimensions and Time Beyond the Fourth Dimension
Questions:
- Does the concept of time extend into the fifth dimension, given that time is typically considered the fourth dimension?
- What might the fifth through eleventh dimensions look like, and how would they differ from each other?
- Does time exist beyond our four-dimensional framework, and if so, how is it conceptualized in higher dimensions?
Simple Answers to the Questions:
Two-dimensional planes serve as the foundational basis for all dimensions beyond the first two-dimensional plane.
A1. Conceptually, within a fourth-dimensional framework, the inclusion of a fifth dimension implies that time is inevitable. This suggests that the time dimension does not inherently contain existential events.
A2. Dimensions: From Perceptible Space to Imperceptible Hyper-Dimensions
i. A point has no dimension but occupies a specific location.
ii. Adding length to a point introduces the first dimension, resulting in a line, which is perceptible to us.
iii. Adding height to the length creates the second dimension, forming a plane, which is also perceptible to us.
iv. Adding depth to the plane results in the third dimension, creating a volume of space that is perceptible to us.
v. Introducing an additional dimension beyond the three spatial dimensions creates the fourth dimension, which is imperceptible to us.
vi. This pattern continues with higher dimensions (hyper-dimensions). For example, the fifth dimension can introduce possible worlds with a similar starting point as ours.
vii. The sixth dimension encompasses all possible worlds in a plane with the same starting point.
viii. The seventh dimension includes all possible worlds in a plane with different starting points.
ix. The eighth dimension involves all possible worlds in a plane with different starting points, each branching out differently.
And so forth.
Dimensions are measurable extents such as length, breadth, depth, or height. The dimension of a mathematical space is informally defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to specify any point within it. A three-dimensional space contains an infinite number of planes, each with an infinite number of real numbers. While a three-dimensional space with countable planes of real numbers is perceptible to humans, higher dimensions, known as hyper-dimensions, remain imperceptible because we are confined to three-dimensional space. Entities within our three-dimensional existence cannot physically interact with hyper-dimensional spaces. Since hyper-dimensions are beyond our perceptual reach, the fourth dimension—time—is also imperceptible to us. We represent the fourth dimension through mathematical or conceptual models, often manifested as physical frequencies.
A3. The time dimension exists above the spatial dimensions. For example, a three-dimensional space is associated with a fourth-dimensional time, indicating that events do not occupy the time dimension. Similarly, a four-dimensional hyperspace would correspond to a fifth-dimensional time, suggesting that events do not occupy this time dimension. Consequently, another time dimension could exist beyond our four-dimensional hyperspace, indicating the presence of an even higher time dimension.
10 August 2024
The Relationship Between Events and the Emergence of Time in Classical and Relativistic Frameworks of Space and Time: Events Invoke Time
Soumendra Nath Thakur
ORCiD: 0000-0003-1871-7803
10-08-2024
An event (P) can be represented within a coordinate system (x, y, z, t) in both Classical Euclidean space-time and Relativistic Minkowskian spacetime, albeit with different interpretations.
Classical Euclidean Space and Time:
In Classical Euclidean interpretations, events are described using three spatial coordinates (x, y, z) along with an absolute, independent time dimension (t). Here, space and time are treated as separate entities, with time progressing uniformly and unaffected by spatial coordinates.
Relativistic Minkowskian Spacetime:
Conversely, in Relativistic Minkowskian interpretations, events are represented within the same three spatial coordinates (x, y, z) but are fused with the time coordinate (t) into a unified spacetime framework. This framework is expressed as (t, x, y, z), where time and space are interwoven, reflecting the interconnected nature of space-time in the theory of relativity.
Coordinate System Origins:
Both coordinate systems originate at the point (0, 0, 0, 0), where there is no change in spatial coordinates, and consequently, no emergence of a time coordinate. This results in the expression (t, x, y, z) = (0, 0, 0, 0).
Implications for Physical Phenomena:
When applied to physical phenomena, this implies that a non-eventful origin of space will not give rise to time. This concept establishes the principle that events invoke time. Thus, an event P at the coordinate origin would be expressed as P(t, x, y, z) = (0, 0, 0, 0), where the lack of change in the spatial coordinates of the event, P(x, y, z) = 0, results in no progression of time (t = 0). However, if there is a change in the spatial coordinates, P(x', y', z') ≠ 0, it will lead to a corresponding change in the time coordinate (t' ≠ 0).
This phenomenon confirms that time is not invoked in the absence of spatial changes in an event, but rather that only eventful existence can invoke time.
The statement, "You'll need to recognize an existence before this existence came into being by the simple fact that we are in this existence, which would not exist without the prior existence," overlooks a critical concept: non-eventful existence does not invoke time—only existential events do.
Time is defined as the indefinite, continuous progression of existence and events through the past, present, and future, regarded as a whole. This progression unfolds in a uniform, unchanging sequence, often referred to as cosmic time, within the context of the fourth dimension, beyond the three spatial dimensions.
This understanding confirms that both existence and events are necessary for time to emerge. Non-eventful existence alone cannot invoke time because time tracks changes in existence. Without changes or events, time becomes meaningless. It is crucial to understand that time does not cause events; rather, events cause time to emerge.
To reiterate: events invoke time, not the other way around.
Therefore, even if there is non-eventful existence, without events, there can be no emergence of time. The Big Bang event marked the first emergence of time, preceding which there was only non-eventful existence.
Time dilation are often viewed not as true experiments, but as demonstrations of preconceived notions:
While I recognize your intellectual acumen, I reckon there may be a misunderstanding regarding the nature of time dilation and the experiments that support it. The numerous published studies confirming time dilation are often viewed not as true experiments, but as demonstrations of preconceived notions. This is because, fundamentally, time itself is not a dilatable entity; rather, events give rise to the concept of time.
Time is defined as the indefinite, continuous progression of existence and events through the past, present, and future, considered as a whole. This progression occurs in a uniform, unchanging sequence, often referred to as cosmic time, within the context of the fourth dimension, above the three spatial dimensions.
Cosmic time is physically represented in clocks and is standardized by the constant frequency of caesium atoms. However, clocks are susceptible to mechanical distortions due to relativistic effects such as motion or gravity. While existential events are physical, time itself is not; it is a conceptual, abstract idea. Therefore, while physical entities can be distorted, time cannot.
Real events in space do not interact with the fourth dimension of time in a way that would allow for distortion through interactions, motion, or gravity. Events in space cannot naturally access the proper time dimension, so their effects cannot alter time beyond its ideal succession, as claimed in the concept of time dilation.
Wavelength distortion due to phase shifts in relative frequency is often misrepresented as time dilation. According to the relation 𝜆 ∝ 𝑇, where 𝜆 denotes wavelength and 𝑇 denotes the period of oscillation, distortion in the clock mechanism affects the wavelength, which is incorrectly interpreted as time dilation.
Clock readings should always follow the natural order of time; otherwise, external distortions will lead to incorrect readings in the clock mechanism. This is why the concept of time dilation is misleading.
Clocks are designed to measure time, not time dilation. The concept of time dilation, which deviates from the standard measure of time, suggests a fundamental error in our understanding of time. The relationship t(360°) < t'(>360°) further illustrates that relativistic time dilation is a flawed concept.
In essence, time is a conceptual or abstract mathematical idea that emerges from events. The phase change in relative frequency, due to the gradual decay of wave energy and the corresponding increase in the wavelength of oscillation, leads to errors in clock time readings when there are relativistic effects or differences in gravitational potential. This phenomenon is inaccurately presented as time dilation.
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Soumendra Nath Thakur
Explanation to the question, "Why is the existence of time before the Big Bang event meaningless?"
Mr. DAniel Comstock Hixson .
Regarding your comment: "Because time doesn't exist, if it does, explain what came before the Big Bang. I'm new on this page, fellow group members seem pretty smart, but I would love to hear answers."
As for the notion that 'time explains what came before the Big Bang,' this reflects a misunderstanding. The Big Bang theory predicts a primordial, uneventful existence before the Big Bang event, which then unfolded through the first Big Bang event. This implies that time began with the emergence of both existence and events, not just the existence of events alone. The Big Bang theory does not hint at the occurrence of events before the Big Bang, so any pre-Big Bang existence without events would not give rise to the concept of time. Therefore, without empirical evidence of events before the Big Bang, it is meaningless to conceptualize time in that context, so time cannot explain what came before the Big Bang when there were no events except uneventful existence.
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Soumendra Nath Thakur
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